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Meeting of AIGETOA with Director (HR) on 18th June 2018

As per Schedule, GS AIGETOA Shri Ravi Shil Verma along with VP-III Shri Badri Mehta, VP-IV Shri Vivek Kumar Singh and CHQ Advisor Shri Bashisth Gupta met Director (HR) Smt. Sujata T Ray on 18th June 2018 regarding the seniority cum fitness issue for Direct Recruit JTOs. The meeting was also attended by Shri Keshav Rao-GM (Pers), Shri Manish Kumar - Jt.GM (Pers) and OSD to Director (HR) Shri V K Sinha.

During the meeting, GS AIGETOA categorically stated that the recently issued SCF orders are in complete and blatant violation of Hon'ble Kerala High Court Judgment for following 1:1 ratio between DRs and PRs for executing the promotions during Interim Period. In this regard, GS also showed the certified copy of interim directions dated 14th June 2018 of Hon'ble CAT Ernakulum, wherein they have clearly stated that till the integrated list is finalized, BSNL has to follow 1:1. Click here for the Interim Directions

GS expressed the resentment of DRs for non-inclusion of DRs in the recently issued promotion order on dated 15.06.2018 violating the Hon'ble High Court Ernakulum order which has given opportunity to give promotions to maximum executives which included DRs as well as PRs after a long gap. However, due to undue pressure from some corners and hurried approach, all DRs and many PRs have been left out.

It was stated by GM (Pers) that they have issued the promotion orders for the non-disputed list. GS asked for the basis and documents based on which Personnel Section arrived on this decision that "no extra promotions have been made for the period 1996 to 2000". Even Seniority list was published after the promotion order and the same was uploaded next day. On seeking the number of notified vacancies for the period 1996-2000 in JTO Cadre for DR and PR quota, Personnel section could not tell anything specifically. GS expressed complete discontent on the manner in which Personnel section decided that extra promotions have not been made (in the period 1996-2000) without any concrete documents and vacancy positions and went ahead with issuance of promotion orders of 3139 executives in complete and utter disregard of the Directions of the Hon'ble Courts (Both High court as well as CAT orders).

GS expressed that Pers section has deliberately not included DRs in the recently issued promotion orders in spite of clear cut direction from Hon'ble Ernakulum CAT and Hon'ble High Court just to appease one particular group who have been singing the tunes of parity between LDCE and SCF quota while there is no ban on SCF promotions clubbing the vacancies together. GS told still there is high time to correct the mistake and start the DPC process for remaining DRs and promote quota officers. GS explained Director HR that despite the injustice, AIGETOA is not in favor of blocking the promotional channels for any body and that is the reason, we have not challenged the orders and have instead seeking the promotions for the Left Out DRs. However, if anybody infringes on our rights then we will leave no stone unturned. Therefore, it will be in the best interests of all that remaining seniority cum fitness DPCs should be done before implementation of CPSU policy.

Director HR told that suggestion of AIGETOA for completing the DPC process for all the vacancies till 2017-18 is genuine and directed personal cell to start the DPC process for the remaining vacancies also so that all eligible DR JTOs as well as all eligible promotee quota JTOs can be promoted to SDE post. Madam emphasized that her priority is to promote each and every executive through available vacancies till 2017-18. GS Categorically requested Director HR that the pending DPCs for remaining eligible DRs as well as PRs should be done as per current RR before moving on to CPSU Hierarchy so that they can claim the benefit of being SDE while moving on to CPSU hierarchy i.e. 2 years relaxation in promotion from SDE to Sr. SDE.

Madam, after patiently hearing our grievances, assured GS that pending DPCs will be done before moving onto CPSU policy. She finally directed Pers wing to work out on the promotion through SCF of the remaining vacancies present till i.e. 2017-18. After filling up of all the vacancy through SCF, LDCE quota will also be notified soon for the remaining vacancies. At last Madam assured that CPSU will only take place after issuance of all the promotion order through SCF till 2017-18.

Discussion on footnote 2 relaxation in MSRR and subsequent Judgement from Hon'ble Madras High Court citing weightage and quota for qualification in AGM Cadre also took place. GS requested for weightage of qualification in CPSU policy and also told that qualification bar should be implemented in CPSU also as being done in the case of MS RRs. Madam assured to look in to this issue positively before implementation of CPSU. She asked for input from Personal section in this regard.

Meeting ended on firm and positive note.

BSNL ISSUES PROMOTION ORDERS UNDER SCF QUOTA IGNORING ALL ELIGIBLE DRS - TIME FOR INTROSPECTION FOR ALL BSNL RECRUITS

BSNL issues promotion orders under SCF quota ignoring all eligible DRs - Time for introspection for all BSNL recruits :

In one of the bold moves, BSNL Management went ahead with issuance of Promotion orders of 3139 people despite clear-cut directions from Hon'ble Kerala High Court and interim Direction from Hon'ble CAT Ernakulam to follow 1:1 while promoting. We congratulate all those who got promoted because promotions have been a rare commodity in BSNL and issuance of LDCE posting orders have given a new dimension to the promotion scenario in BSNL. Click here for the order & Annex-1_1,Annex-1_2 & Annex-2

These promotion orders have been done despite the fact that:

1. There was clear judgment from Hon HC, Kerala on 5/6/18 - with regard to preparation of integrated final AIEL.

2. Clear direction & guidelines to keep 1:1 ratio between PRs & DRs by equal distribution of vacancies.

3. Against an interim direction from Hon Court dated 14/6/18.

4. More than sufficient vacancies were available to accommodate most of the eligible JTOs (10000+). The wound is more open, when we are aware that almost all cadres like electrical, civil, CSS, are all completely done till 2016-17 & 2017-18.

We congratulate management especially Personnel section that at last have shown firm will power to execute the promotion orders and we are happy to know that despite sword of contempt of court lingering on the heads, they have decided to move ahead with promotions. We have been waiting to see such type of resolute action for issuance of Promotion orders in the case of LDCE 2015 where there was no stay at all but the same was kept pending for almost two years on the pretext of court cases.

We are also overwhelmed by the message from Personnel Section to all HR heads of circles where they have directed to advise all beneficiaries to submit Joining same day only to avoid complications arising out of further litigation which itself tells the true story that Personnel cell was well aware of the actions which they were taking and were worried that orders have been done in violation of something. We are happy to note that same Personnel section did not issue any direction to circles during LDCE Postings.

We are also overwhelmed by the efficiency of Telangana and AP circle where they endorsed the promotion orders uploaded on Intranet on 16th June 2018 well in advance on 15th June 2018. This lightening fast advance action was invisible during recent LDCE postings when our office bearers have to run pillar to post to get the orders endorsed in circles.

We congratulate Personnel cell for the efforts where they have contributed more than what they could have to ensure the promotions for some while and at the same time, denying the justified rights of BSNL recruited executives by not going for filling up the complete vacancies.

We also congratulate the corners who forced management to go ahead with promotion orders of part list leaving all BSNL recruited executives devoid of promotions despite all of them being eligible to be promoted as SDE and despite court giving a solution to fill up all the vacancies.

Their desperation level was so high to keep DRs away from promotion list that they did not even forced management to fill up the complete SCF quota of Vacancy year 2010-11 and subsequent years as that would have made LDCE Left overs and 2007-08 batch JTOs eligible for Promotion. Their Quest was so high that even statutory reservation guidelines issued by DoP&T recently was not followed.

We are thankful to Personnel cell for doing the formality of calling GS AIGETOA late at night before issuing the orders and not accepting any of the contentions and objections raised by GS AIGETOA during the conversation. GM Pers however assured GS AIGETOA that subsequent vacancies would also be filled up before moving on to CPSU hierarchy on which we will keep our fingers crossed. If Personnel section continues to work with same zeal and enthusiasm, we are very sure that DPC Process of remaining eligible JTOs can be completed within one month so that all eligible ones can enter the policy as SDEs.

AIGETOA has been raising this issue and have been requesting management to fill up the vacancies and now it will be our single point agenda that before implementation of the CPSU hierarchy, all the available vacancies shall have to be filled up and seniority list in each cadre will have to be pronounced so that each executive may know its actual seniority position before moving on to the CPSU hierarchy policy else such type of injustice will keep on occurring with BSNL Recruits.

We cannot allow new Policy to come unless all the available vacancies of SDEs are filled up and Qualification Criteria finds its due weightage in the New Policy. We want all DR JTOs who have sufficient service length as JTOs to enter the CPSU Policy as SDEs so that they can claim their rightful service relaxation for promotion to the next post. We cannot allow this Policy to come unless until management firmly commits that MT recruitment shall be scrapped and Fast Track Policy for youngsters is incorporated. We cannot allow this policy to come into place till the Pay Scale issue of Post 1.1.2007 JTOs is finalized to E2 and a solution is extended to the executives facing pay loss due to disparity in initial basic of Rs. 22820 before implementation of 3rd PRC. We also assure all the rank and file of BSNL recruits that this partisan approach cannot be prolonged far and ultimately truth will prevail and Justice will win.

On the group Term insurance policy also, delay is mainly on account of hike in rates because of inclusion of executives above 55 years of age. Effort of some corners toexclude BR non-executives from GTI policy will also be strongly opposed by AIGETOA as we are of the view that all BRs should be covered by GTI irrespective of the fact whether they are executives or non-executives.

A meeting with Director HR has been scheduled at 12:00 noon on Monday the 18th June to discuss about the promotions issue of BSNL recruits and lets see if something positive is there for management to offer for BSNL recruits. There we will also raise the issue of delay in GTI implementation and inclusion of BSNL Recruited Non executives also in the policy. We sincerely hope that Director HR will extend Justice to the BSNL Recruits. We cannot rest till all BRs get its due rights.

In the meanwhile, its time for introspection for all those BRs who have been watering the plants of such corners and to decide whether they are correct in giving strength to such corners by way of numbers or they should align with the force raising their genuine issues.

CHQ news...

GS writes to Director HR for extending 22820 as initial basic to executives recruited in pre-revised 9850/- Scale (E1A). Click here for the letter

GS letter to DIR (HR) for promotion from JTO (T) TO SDE (T) under SCF quota.   Click here for the letter

GS letter to DIR (HR) for holding JTO (T) LICE under 50% internal quota for the vacancy year 2016-2017 AND 2017-18.   Click here for the letter


Judgement copy of DoPT 1:1 Seniority case on JTO Cadre:

The copy of judgement on the DoPT 1:1 Seniority case on JTO Cadre at Hon HC, Ernakulam Click here for copy

Congratulations to all BSNL Executives !!

Truth Prevails...

Finally DoPT 1:1 Seniority case (JTO Cadre) judgment has seen the light of the day. Even though the judgement copy is yet to be received, We truly hope that both Promotee and Direct Recruit JTOs will get their rightful due through this path breaking judgment by Hon'ble HC Ernakulam.

From the information received, the verdict has come as a Win-Win situation to all who aspire to get the first functional promotion. The thing removed was the gluttonous politics from some corners, which made Direct Recruits to suffer for their promotional avenues. Due to this, the BSNL Recruits lost the promotion chances to SDE cadre from 2005-06 onwards, even though clear guidelines were there from DoPT, DoT & BSNL. Had justice been delivered a few years ago, the Promotees also would have moved up in their career ladder along with Direct Recruits long back.

It's high time to realize that this stalemate blocked the rights of both PRs & DRs just for the sake of playing to the gallery. It's pertinent to mention, even when BSNL proposed to end the stalemate after suffering considerable blows in the argument stages, some people executed the delay games and in the process they played with future and career of both PRs & DRs. Now it's clear that who have made the irreparable loss to those promotees who had to retire from 2011 to till date without achieving their promotions. The adament stand and delay from some corners, denied both DRs & PRs rightful due and in the process they made all the executives to suffer. Still instead of welcoming the judgment, the process of creating confusion has begun. SDE Cadre is having sufficient vacancies for all to be accommodated even if 1:1 is followed, but still the judgment is not being welcomed. With the implementation of this Judgment, all BRs up to 2007-2008 batch can become SDEs as most of the DRs till 2005 batch have been promoted as SDEs. The 50 percent of the remaining vacancies have the potential of accommodating all BRs who are elgible for promotion as per RRs and there is no clash as such between Promotees and DRs. Only thing that is needed is firm resolve to end this stalemate without playing any politics and without dancing to the galleries.

Its again wake-up call to all executive to realize WHO ARE FOR BRs and WHO USES THEM FOR NAMESAKE. It's a universal law that truth will always prevail and justice will be served to those who upholds truth.

Few days back, we mentioned Fact file showing vacancy positions & AIGETOA will strive to make sure that existing vacancies on SDE SCF would be filled by executing promotions to both type of executives SO THAT NO BODY SUFFERS.

Every DR is requested to spare their 10 minutes to read the submissions of AIGETOA which will throw light on how the rights of BSNL recruits are being compromised and there is an urgent need to unite together under single umbrella.

GS WRITES TO DIRECTOR (HR) SUBMITTING THE APPREHENSIONS OF BSNL RECRUITS:

GS writes to Director HR submitting the apprehensions of BSNL recruits. Our submission may give an impression that we are trying to stop the CPSU policy. But this is intended with an effort to make this policy rugged, litigation free and easily implementable.

Since, this policy is to be kept in public domain for 10 days before its implementation; it is very much needed to address the genuine grievances and apprehensions associated with the policy else the new policy will end up in litigations and court cases which ultimately will result into defeating the very purpose of the policy.

AIGETOA has always adopted a pragmatic & considerate approach for ensuring a contemporary CPSU hierarchy for the betterment of career prospects and meeting management's/company's need in this highly competitive environment. We want that the new policy which is going to be a landmark in the history of BSNL should be free from litigations and should be a strong one which cannot be challenged in court of law. All are requested to give 10 minutes of their precious time to read. This representation of AIGETOA is sufficient to prove that AIGETOA Is for all BRs irrespective of caste, creed, group or batch.

Together we will achieve our rights. Need of the hour is to remain together and extend your unqualified support.

Letter to Director HR.Click here for letter

AIGETOA Submission.Click here for AIGETOA submission

Appeal by BSNL- Minutes.Click here for BSNL appeal letter

Ernakulam High court has disposed off in favour of the applicants (AIGETOA Team-Kerala)

It is learnt that court has directed to follow 1:1 with Promotees Vs Direct Recruits in JTO Cader. This has to be followed in seniority cum Fitness quota promotions for SDEs also where 50 percent of the SCF posts ie. 33.5 percent of the total posts will have to be reserved for DRs.

Details of the judgement is awaited. After 17 long years, Justice has been delivered to the BSNL recruits. We sincerely hope management will now take the justified step in favour of the BSNL recruits.


FACT FILE ON 1:1 SENIORITY CASE & CURRENT SITUATION ON SCF QUOTA PROMOTIONS

There are statements/queries from different corners with regard to the importance 1:1 seniority and its current beneficiaries / implications. The facts and situation should be aware to all BSNL Recruits in this regard. The DoPT Seniority case at Hon'ble High Cout Ernakulam is related with allotment of justified 1:1 seniority and settle other discrepancies like back dated YOR in JTO Seniority list, which had hamper BSNL recruits first career progression through SCF quota. 

AIGETOA's stand on Promotions is crystal clear that Promotions to be effected in Seniority and Competitive Quota for existing vacancies with existing Recruitment Rules. On persuasion of long pending promotions towards SDET cadre, AIGETOA work is only half done by executing the LDCE-15 promotions. Now the Promotions through SCF quota for the DRs with due seniority is awaited after Hon'ble High Court Kerala Judgement on the DoP&T case is pronounced.

SDET Vacancies & DRs eligibility of DRs for first career progression chances are mentioned in the below table so that all DRs should know where we stand.

From above table, it can be understood why we are insisting on filling up of all the available vacancies so that all the eligible JTOs can be promoted through existing RR itself.

The SAGA of claims and counter claims continue:

In the quest for claiming credit, people go up to which extent is visible on the website of one of our friendly association. They show that they are worried about pending promotions while the fact is that credit is more important than the work for them. While we love to work and deliver results, others make lot of hue and cry and result is nil. If they were so worried, why no body was aware about the Stay from Allahabad High Court as the case was almost two years old.

AIBSNLEA in its update has projected that the case is filed by AIGETOA while the fact is that when GM Pers informed about the Allahabad case, GS AIGETOA immediately enquired about the applicants, got in touch with them and convinced them to file withdrawal petition. This was well communicated to GS AIBSNLEA also along with others but still he preferred to unnecessary bother Director HR for the reasons best known to him. However, his web update also emboldens the fact that it was the efforts of AIGETOA which has made LDCE promotions a reality. Now we will make seniority cum Fitness promotions also a reality as we believe in growth of all without any prejudice and partisan attitude. With this thought in mind only, we tried consensus building amongst stakeholders in Ernakulam case in May 2017 but the same never took off despite our best efforts to end the stalemate.

We have already convinced the applicants in Allahabad case and they have withdrawn the case. Instead of appreciating the same, GS AIBSNLEA tried to falsely implicate AIGETOA name in it.

This credit thing is the main reason for this condition of promotional avenues in BSNL. Still no body wants to learn from it. It's high time for members to understand it now..